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you put chrysler in very awkward position. >> i did put chrysler in awkward position, no two ways about it. it is really workers fault. they are the guys that did it. there are a lot of people working in the factory and i'm hearing from the people in the factory right now, majority of people that i have been hearing from that work in the factory are not really thrilled that these guys are coming back. megyn: they gave them all a black eye. >> the people in the factory don't want the guys working in there. megyn: majority of the workers are hard-working people who don't get hammered on the lunch break and go back and build our jeeps. they took a beating as well in the public. i want to talk about whether this is the new state? we've been talking about unions in this program as michigan is now a right-to-work state and this is where this happened, in michigan. i will pick up on that and how this story plays in right after the break. we'll carry you guys over. stay with me. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you stil
you put chrysler in very awkward position. >> i did put chrysler in awkward position, no two ways about it. it is really workers fault. they are the guys that did it. there are a lot of people working in the factory and i'm hearing from the people in the factory right now, majority of people that i have been hearing from that work in the factory are not really thrilled that these guys are coming back. megyn: they gave them all a black eye. >> the people in the factory don't want the...
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chrysler now twice. we see that in the southern states where the transplants are without the unions. they weren't the ones who went bankrupt last -- in 2008 and 2009. so it really is a choice. it's a tough choice. and i sympathize with the unions but the fact is that in the global economy where you have to compete on wages and other elements, of the units of production, can you either have, you know, high wages with low employment or you can, as obama would say, spread around the wealth. the fact is that in the right-to-work states, unemployment is 6.9%. >> we have a graphic that shows right-to-work vs. non-right to work statements on employment, go ahead. >> and in the other stays the non-right-to-work it's 8.7. so you can choose to have fewer workers who enjoy higher inflated unnatural, if you like, wangs on uncompetitive wages. or competitive wages and more people employed. more people with the dignity of a job and less unemployment. more taxation and more activity. i think it's it the right choice bu
chrysler now twice. we see that in the southern states where the transplants are without the unions. they weren't the ones who went bankrupt last -- in 2008 and 2009. so it really is a choice. it's a tough choice. and i sympathize with the unions but the fact is that in the global economy where you have to compete on wages and other elements, of the units of production, can you either have, you know, high wages with low employment or you can, as obama would say, spread around the wealth. the...
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and remember the chrysler workers smoking and drinking during the lunch break? two suspended and they got their jobs back. that was an arbitrator's ruling. under the union contract they were on their own time. chrysler says it disagrees with the decision, can't change it, that's the example of the union's power. and tell us what you think about the workers getting their jobs back. and we'll read some on the air. more fantasy island in california, coming up after the break, why california's green energy policies just don't work and we're also going to bring you the opening bell and we've got more companies issuing special dividends before the end of the year. including the one that runs victoria's secrets. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that hes block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. relieving the pain quickly. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. an
and remember the chrysler workers smoking and drinking during the lunch break? two suspended and they got their jobs back. that was an arbitrator's ruling. under the union contract they were on their own time. chrysler says it disagrees with the decision, can't change it, that's the example of the union's power. and tell us what you think about the workers getting their jobs back. and we'll read some on the air. more fantasy island in california, coming up after the break, why california's...
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began to fall apart, when it became clear that gm, ford, chrysler cannot polling started having some many retirees relative to those working at it just is hard to work within that confinement. the question was whether labour would mobilize to say that the private welfare system is falling apart. the only solution is therefore to really have the kind of health care system that exists elsewhere. the labor union was not strong enough to do it, and i think a lot of cases man mistake of not making that the primary issue. the result was that companies like gm got none of it not by saying once make it into a public system but let's take it away from the workers, and that's how will save money. and that's what happened. >> the occupy wall street movement. an hon. >> the book ends with a quotation from the cut a square. a young woman holding a banner. hand-painted cardboard sign that says the trouble with the american dream is you need to be asleep to believe in it. wakeup. and there is no question that the audacity of the occupation is no doubt inspired by what is going on in aged and madrid
began to fall apart, when it became clear that gm, ford, chrysler cannot polling started having some many retirees relative to those working at it just is hard to work within that confinement. the question was whether labour would mobilize to say that the private welfare system is falling apart. the only solution is therefore to really have the kind of health care system that exists elsewhere. the labor union was not strong enough to do it, and i think a lot of cases man mistake of not making...
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chrysler said that. not the union. >> sorry, sorry. chrysler said that. so like next time something falls off your chrysler, like your steering wheel cover kind of slips off, now we know why, because you're like sailing -- 30,000 feet up high. knobs always fall off. let's get another nickel bag before i go back to work. ridiculous! >> gretchen: it speaks to the power of the union. it really does. and whatever they had in the language of their contract, the arbitrator sided with them. so they must have this sort of ironclad language. you're a lawyer what, do you think? >> well, i think chrysler is now on the receiving end of what so many others feel in states where unions are really powerful. and so they're now the ones who have to deal with it. as a legal matter, i don't think chrysler is going to be able to challenge this. i think the ruling is going to stand and maybe chrysler will rue the day they were so lax and tolerant of union power. >> steve: speaking of power. powerball, the second guy who won t
chrysler said that. not the union. >> sorry, sorry. chrysler said that. so like next time something falls off your chrysler, like your steering wheel cover kind of slips off, now we know why, because you're like sailing -- 30,000 feet up high. knobs always fall off. let's get another nickel bag before i go back to work. ridiculous! >> gretchen: it speaks to the power of the union. it really does. and whatever they had in the language of their contract, the arbitrator sided with...
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chrysler said it disagrees with the decision but it wants to move forward. a suspect in texas not letting a little thing like handcuffs. take a look. guy stealing the cop tar while handcuff. see darren douglas porter sneak into the driver's seat after rolling down the rear window which isn't supposed to roll down. cops were talking to one another. and about some store that he allegedly burglarized and 41-year-old abandoned the car a few blocks away. cops are confident they will catch him soon. so he did get away. most viewed youtube video ever and smash hit in the u.s. did the gangnam style rapper once wish death to american soldiers? ♪ gangnam style ♪ >> by the way gangnam is the wealthest area of south korea. back in 2004, rapper psy called for slow and painful death for soldiers in iraq and their families. he has recently apologized and set to perform for the president during a christmas special which tapes tomorrow in washington. an online petition asks that psy be removed from the show but that petition has since been taken down. the president still
chrysler said it disagrees with the decision but it wants to move forward. a suspect in texas not letting a little thing like handcuffs. take a look. guy stealing the cop tar while handcuff. see darren douglas porter sneak into the driver's seat after rolling down the rear window which isn't supposed to roll down. cops were talking to one another. and about some store that he allegedly burglarized and 41-year-old abandoned the car a few blocks away. cops are confident they will catch him soon....
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so the employers, let's say general motors, ford, chrysler, the automobile manufacturers, since we're talking about michigan, they all made lots of money. and the workers who worked for those companies were middle class and their children went to college and became lawyers and doctors and accountants and some of them even went back to work in the factories. but now, seven days it took to crush the ability of workers to stand together financially. they'll never crush the spirit of the workers but they have used the law with no public hearings new york committee action, no regular course of action during the legislation, during the legislative session, which is a lame duck legislative session by the way, no regular order, just a sneak attack thursday morning, the sixth of november, one month after the landslide election in michigan and throughout this country, that turned back the corporate money that was arrayed against the democrats. and arrayed against president obama. it turned that back. a resounding victory on november 6, on december 6, a sneak attack while during a lame duck sess
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what's happening with chrysler. what's happening with ford. >> yep. >> i mean, these are companies that are fighting back. >> coming back. >> and it is inspiring. >> they need strong unions. >> let's do a town hall meeting. >> let's do it. that was fun. we did that in new jersey on education. let's do it. >> let's go to detroit and we can talk about this, also how to revive detroit. >> michigan, you did a show for the big detroit regional chamber of commerce. >> look forward to that. >> we're all going to be there. >> in vermont, you don't need, because of the icy conditions there, a ford raptor, do you? >> oh, you need a raptor. >> i have a hybrid escape. >> raptor's a lot like the escape. >> except it has horrific gas mileage. the raptor. >> oh, the raptor. >> four miles to the gallon. >> escape gets good mileage. >> 31 in the summertime. it's fantastic. >> impressive. >>> still ahead, political analyst richard wolffe. also the president of the university of pennsylvania and author amy guttmann explains why the pe
what's happening with chrysler. what's happening with ford. >> yep. >> i mean, these are companies that are fighting back. >> coming back. >> and it is inspiring. >> they need strong unions. >> let's do a town hall meeting. >> let's do it. that was fun. we did that in new jersey on education. let's do it. >> let's go to detroit and we can talk about this, also how to revive detroit. >> michigan, you did a show for the big detroit regional...
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there's no money in the federal till to bail out detroit, especially after we bailed out gm and chrysler already. >> larry, i say let it fail. i'm sorry. you have. to i want those people to have local control. they fought for that local control. they should have a vote. the citizens of the city of detroit should have a vote. but it should fail when it goes wrong. that's what has to happen. the good news is we've now got in michigan as of yesterday we've got legislation pass today make michigan a right to work state. that's going to have a big impact down the road. >> i like that. i like the failure idea. free market capitalism is about success and failure. and as the great free market capitalist nobel prize winner wrote, of the two, doc, sometimes failure teaches us more than success. i like your point very, very much. all right. doc thompson coming out of detroit, thanks very much. >>> now let's talk about the cuts plan for the federal workforce. with the countdown to the fiscal cliff at 24 days, the "washington post" reporting today that federal agencies are sharpening their plans befo
there's no money in the federal till to bail out detroit, especially after we bailed out gm and chrysler already. >> larry, i say let it fail. i'm sorry. you have. to i want those people to have local control. they fought for that local control. they should have a vote. the citizens of the city of detroit should have a vote. but it should fail when it goes wrong. that's what has to happen. the good news is we've now got in michigan as of yesterday we've got legislation pass today make...
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we talked earlier this week about the power of unions and the situation in chrysler up to detroit where a fox affiliate reporter caught the guys on tape. there they are boozing and smoking pot on their lunch break then going back and working with heavy machinery building automobiles. and they just got ordered to get their jobs back despite the tape. they are on tape. because the way these union contracts are and the rules. now we hear these guys, these healthcare workers who are accused of just so our viewers know, removing patient i.d. wrist expands, patient identifiers from the room dears and wheelchairs. the name tags for thal humaner's ward were mixed up. the photo attached to medical records were removed. >> they have five days. healthbridge. five days in which to make their appeal. what is interesting is the judge in this case. he was select about it national labor relations board at the behest of the service employees union. he has hand picked by the nlrb. he is a clinton appointee. and he is hardly a dispassionate and objective player. megyn: it could have gone the other way und
we talked earlier this week about the power of unions and the situation in chrysler up to detroit where a fox affiliate reporter caught the guys on tape. there they are boozing and smoking pot on their lunch break then going back and working with heavy machinery building automobiles. and they just got ordered to get their jobs back despite the tape. they are on tape. because the way these union contracts are and the rules. now we hear these guys, these healthcare workers who are accused of just...
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they don't want to have happen to them what happened to general motors or chrysler. yothey make it less profitable r unions. as a result you get more invested and more jobs. jobs are one thing michigan definitely needs. lori: i agree. the unions would argue many of the freedoms, many of the advantages their workers enjoy her because of the lobbies and the history they have had, therefore the unions are deservedly deserve their dues. >> if you can persuade workers to give you their money, that is fantastic, that is your constitutional right. they should not be forced to pay dues to the union. 20% of union households in michigan support the right to work law. probably because there's a awful lot of union workers don't go there again the value worth of their dues or supports priorities. they should have a choice, that is their right. lori: we have seen unions lose membership, lot less clout than in generations past. how do you characterize the influence of unions right now? >> it is a competitive marketplace. up through the late 70s the detroit automakers headlock on th
they don't want to have happen to them what happened to general motors or chrysler. yothey make it less profitable r unions. as a result you get more invested and more jobs. jobs are one thing michigan definitely needs. lori: i agree. the unions would argue many of the freedoms, many of the advantages their workers enjoy her because of the lobbies and the history they have had, therefore the unions are deservedly deserve their dues. >> if you can persuade workers to give you their money,...
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only would apply to public sector workers, it would apply to those workers that worked for ford, gm, chrysler, all of the unions here. so protesters here are storming through the halls of this state capital in lansing yesterday. i want you to take a listen to what one protester said. >> it terrifies me they are trying to pass this through with no discussion from the other side. no understanding of what's important in it. >> reporter: the union members that were protesting chanting things like "union busting is disgusting." it did not go through public debate, but the republican mayor here insists that this is beneficial for the workers. here's his take. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and that legislators move promptly and efficiently in moving it through the legislature and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >>. the data shows it's right to work for less. it's an effort by the wealthy, by people like the right wing that they want to push workers wages and benefits down. >> reporter: that coming from the head of the united auto workers here. a labor lawyer i spoke
only would apply to public sector workers, it would apply to those workers that worked for ford, gm, chrysler, all of the unions here. so protesters here are storming through the halls of this state capital in lansing yesterday. i want you to take a listen to what one protester said. >> it terrifies me they are trying to pass this through with no discussion from the other side. no understanding of what's important in it. >> reporter: the union members that were protesting chanting...
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chrysler now twice . we see it in the southern states where the plants are. they were not the ones that went bankrupt in 2008 and 9. it really is a tough choice and i sympathize with the unions. but in the global economy where you compete on wages and other units of production . you can either have high wages with low employment or as obama said spread around the wealth. >> gretchen: michigan is the heart of the labor industry in this nation specifically whether so many cars are made and the unions are powerful there. it is emblematic and we look back on history. this move to make michigan a right to work state will be historic for that reason alone . what needs to be so clear in the discussion, it is really about choice. it is not about tamping down people's rights. it is actually moving them up and saying you now have a choice. you can pay your dues to the union, or you can choose not to pay the dues. >> steve: what happened in michigan is a great thing. because any time the government insists that you have to pay to go in and get a paycheck, that is it a s
chrysler now twice . we see it in the southern states where the plants are. they were not the ones that went bankrupt in 2008 and 9. it really is a tough choice and i sympathize with the unions. but in the global economy where you compete on wages and other units of production . you can either have high wages with low employment or as obama said spread around the wealth. >> gretchen: michigan is the heart of the labor industry in this nation specifically whether so many cars are made and...
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it is home to united autoworker and it is ford and gm and chrysler and this changes a lot for the people in michigan. >> gretchen: this is a huge epic fight. the idea that michigan is a right to work state. indiana did it 10 months ago as you know. but there is a gop house and i believe the senate is controllled stunningly by republicans and look at this revolt now. this is similar to what we saw in wisconsin . what will happen with the right to work statute. it will eexempt firefighters and police officers and end mandatory dues for public and private unions. >> brian: people have choices to check the box. we'll listen to governor rick snyder of michigan. >> in the unions are strong in michigan and they did a lot of good in terms of work issues . people wanted to join the union. but today we give the workers a choice and give them an opportunity to say do we want to belong to the union. i don't see it antiunion. workers should want to join and be part. it is a worker choice . the second thing it is economic development. we watched what went on in indiana. they have seen a significant in
it is home to united autoworker and it is ford and gm and chrysler and this changes a lot for the people in michigan. >> gretchen: this is a huge epic fight. the idea that michigan is a right to work state. indiana did it 10 months ago as you know. but there is a gop house and i believe the senate is controllled stunningly by republicans and look at this revolt now. this is similar to what we saw in wisconsin . what will happen with the right to work statute. it will eexempt firefighters...
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for everyone from public school teachers that are unionized to autoworkers on the line at gm, ford or chrysler. interestingly, though, today, too here, brooke, you had fellow union workers protesting that aren't even part of the legislation. it does not apply to firefighters or police officers. but yet here today we found firefighters who were protesting this saying this is bad for workers across michigan. and nationally. i want you to listen to ted coakley, he's one of those and he explains why. does this mean the gbeginning o a death of unions in the country? do you think it is that big symbolically? >> i think things like this are waking the sleeping giant. i think workers and working families are tired of losing. they want a fair share of the prosperity of this state, and this country, and i think that's going to help build the union movement. >> reporter: -- from this right to work legislation. why are you here? >> that's correct. as of right now we're exempt from this legislation. but it doesn't change the fact that we want to be here to support all our brothers and sisters in the unions
for everyone from public school teachers that are unionized to autoworkers on the line at gm, ford or chrysler. interestingly, though, today, too here, brooke, you had fellow union workers protesting that aren't even part of the legislation. it does not apply to firefighters or police officers. but yet here today we found firefighters who were protesting this saying this is bad for workers across michigan. and nationally. i want you to listen to ted coakley, he's one of those and he explains...
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it would affect private workers, but also auto workers at ford, general motors and chrysler. this is very big. it does exclude police and firefighters. but this was passed very quickly. this did not go through a committee. it didn't go through public debate. so democrats are calling this a subversion of the legislative process. i want you to take a listen to the auto workers president who was here protesting yesterday and also the governor rick snider. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and the legislators prove properly and efficiently and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >>. the data and facts from the right to work states show it's right to work for less. it's an effort by the wealthy, by people from the right wing that they want to push wages and benefits down. >> the argument is that it makes the state more competitive and it's going to lead to more jobs, right? >> reporter: right. when you look at the data, what we know is that union workers tepid to make more. pretty significantly more than nonunion workers. a median salary for a union worke
it would affect private workers, but also auto workers at ford, general motors and chrysler. this is very big. it does exclude police and firefighters. but this was passed very quickly. this did not go through a committee. it didn't go through public debate. so democrats are calling this a subversion of the legislative process. i want you to take a listen to the auto workers president who was here protesting yesterday and also the governor rick snider. >> to give freedom of choice to our...
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and chrysler and we are going to not let those companies go bankrupt. ms. schakowsky: that was a lot of jobs. mr. johnson: we spent $700 billion and it was the united auto workers union that sat down at the negotiating table with big business, worked out what some may call givebacks. it actually gave up some of the benefits that it had signed contracts for with the employer. these are things that actually created the middle class. things like working days, working hours, wages, benefits, retirement. those kinds of things that people would not have had unless they had been represented by a union. and we had strong unions. so those things -- workers were -- gave back in part to make sure that the corporations could maintain or regain stability. and so now just a short three, four, five years later g.m. is back to being the number one carmaker in the world. ms. schakowsky: and all the money has been paid back to the united states treasury. mr. johnson: i think they still owe us a little bit. we still have -- we still have some of g.m. stock, the federal govern
and chrysler and we are going to not let those companies go bankrupt. ms. schakowsky: that was a lot of jobs. mr. johnson: we spent $700 billion and it was the united auto workers union that sat down at the negotiating table with big business, worked out what some may call givebacks. it actually gave up some of the benefits that it had signed contracts for with the employer. these are things that actually created the middle class. things like working days, working hours, wages, benefits,...